[mike]

Hey there TCH folks, how are ya?

I am wondering if I am allowed to have a shopping cart on one of my subdomains to sell a product.

If so is there a tutorial on setting it up etc.?

thanks. Rock Sign

[TCH-Don]

There are shopping carts in cpanel
I would use cpanel to create the subdomain
then install the cart in the folder created by cpanel.

[mike]

Thanks, Don.

I already have the subdomain created, but I don't know the difference between Agora and the other one, or which is better.

Then, not sure how to set it up. Won't it just set up in public html folder ?

[TCH-Don]

With any of the cpanel installs, you will be asked to enter a folder name to install into.

I suppose you could try them both.
You can also remove them in cpanel the same place you install them.
I know that ether will take some time to modify to suite.

I am sure others that use them will post their opinions.

[TCH-Rob]

Personal opinion, osCommerce. Easy to admin and setup compared to Agora. There are many of us using it so we have a pretty good support base here and they have a good site as well.

[AlanV]

TCH-Rob, on Oct 25 2004, 09:54 PM, said:

Personal opinion, osCommerce. Easy to admin and setup compared to Agora. There are many of us using it so we have a pretty good support base here and they have a good site as well.

Seconded

I havn't used any extensively (I don't do ecommerce), but I've installed both scripts and tried them.

osCommerce is easier to pick up and just use.

[TCH-Thomas]

Moving for organization

[mike]

where do I find out more about oscommerce and how to set it up , how $ is collected etc.

thanks

[TCH-Rob]

oscommerce.com is where you can find out about the cart. You can accept payment via a number of different ways, PayPal, check/money order or your own merchant account. Although my site is a work in progress with OSC you can see what can be done with it by clicking the www under my post. They have an OK support forum and there is wiki.oscommerce.com for more information as well.

[mike]

thanks, Rob. I shall have me a peek at your site and oscommerce.
thanks again.

[CCS]

I have just started checking into making a shopping cart for gift certificates. I seen this forum and I know that it is on the right track but I do not see a osCommerce cart. Only the Agora and Interchange. Interchange says it does not work well with cPanel. Am I just not seeing the osCommerce or does TCH not have it any longer?

My next question would be to do with SSL Keys. I need this to be a secure site so would I need a SSL Key and if so, what is the best way to go about this.

Thank you in advance!

Dori

[TCH-Bruce]

Hi Dori,

Don't know which cPanel skin you have but it should be listed under Addon Scripts. If it's not there please open a Help Desk ticket (link above) so that one of the techs can update your site.

If you have a reseller account you will need to purchase your own SSL certificate. If you have a virtual hosting account you can use the shared SSL on your sever. You can view info on SSL HERE

[CCS]

Thank you Bruce! Exactly the answers I needed. I am guessing I will be back with more questions as I go through this learning process, but I hope I will figure the rest on my own.

Thank you once again!!!
Dori

[john2004]

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This post has been edited by TCH-Don: 10 December 2004 - 09:17 PM

[CDfuse.com]

No shopping cart system was customizable enough for our site (cdfuse.com) so I designed one from scratch. It works with our account at Authorize flawlessly and I can modify, create, and delete anything and everything about it. Sure, it takes more time, but I think its worth it for a truly custom feel. Oh yeah, make sure you get SSL as well for securing those transactions.

[dhilke]

I finally found reference to shopping carts & SSL, but I still have these questions in my head...

1. If I have only one product to sell, do I still need a "shopping cart"?

2. If I install oSCommerce from the controll pannel, will I be able to easily make the pages required for the purchase "look and feel" like the rest of the site?

3. A previous post implied that if I use the oSCommerce script, that I would not have to pay for an SSL certificate; do I understand that correctly?

3.a. If that's true, will users get a popup warning that the certificate does not match the domain (or something to that effect)?

4. I plan to use PayPal - Website Payments Pro to start out with. Are there any reasons I might not want to do that? (I'm brand new to online pmt, if you haven't picked that up...)

Thanks for any help that comes my way,
Dan

[TCH-Bruce]

Welcome to the forums Dan

I don't use nor have I used a shopping cart software so I won't be of much help.

But I do know the answer to 3/3a. If you use the shared certificate on the server for your shopping cart your customers will get the warning popup. If you purchase your own SSL cert this doesn't happen.

With PayPal I don't think you need SSL since you will be using their gateway.

[TCH-Thomas]

Welcome to the forum, Dan.

[GroovyFish]

Hi Dan,

Welcome to the forums!

1) If you only have one product, you may not need an actual shopping cart. I see alot of carts that are standard pages with the add to cart paypal button. I think it really depends on the functionality you need. I personally would want an back-end admin area to track orders.

2) That is a hard question to answer...it depends on your site, your skill level etc.

Bruce handled 3 and 3a so I will skip to 4.

4) My understanding is that Website Payments Pro is very new and has some strict rules. OSC right "out of the box" won't work with it, however, there is a Paypal Website Payments Pro module out this month. I took a look at the OSC forums and was going to see how difficult the module is to install, but the forum post on it is 22 pages long. So, I think I will just give you the link!

http://forums.oscomm...howtopic=158121

You might also read this one, it discusses Website Payments Pro.

http://forums.oscomm...howtopic=155939

[TweezerMan]

Welcome to the forums, Dan!

[dhilke]

Thank you to everyone, for making me feel welcome.
I've been reading the posts on the OSC site, and looking into "authorize.net" which was mentioned more than once there.

I've reached "Saturation Point", and can't digest any more there...

Can anyone simplify all this stuff???
I want to get set up with the ability to take CC transactions for ONE product. I want to get set up as easily and quickly as possible, and not pay more than I need to. I just have to believe that I'm not alone!!

Is there a shopping cart / merchant account combination that is relatively quickly set up and easily understandable, that people here would recommend?
Are there tutorials that I should search for here at tch?

FYI - the website I'm working on is built with phpWebsite, and I have DreamWeaverMX (and all the other Macromedia stuff) for design. If there are things that work well with these, I'd like to hear about them. Our business account is with Wells Fargo, who I've been told has great service for merchant accounts; but I was also told that it would be far more complicated and expensive to start with them than with PayPal.

Thanks again for the great atmosphere here at tch,
Dan

[dhilke]

OK... risking Information Overload, I went back to Authorize.net.
They list oSCommerce as one of their "certified shopping carts".

Does this mean that there is a simple way to set up OSC with Authorize.net?

Is anyone using this service that can comment on service/cost/etc.?

Thanks
Dan

[snipe]

dhilke - I use authorize.net, but I don't use oSCommerce. (I personally can't stand OScommerce, and will always use ZenCart instead, but that's just a personal preference.)

Setting OScommerce up with Authorize.Net should be as simple as 1) signing up for an Authorize.Net account and getting your username and password. 2) Activating the Authorize.Net module in Oscommerce 3) entering the appropriate Authorize.Net account info.

Now, I could be wrong - its been a while since I have trolled around in OScommerce - but thats the way it used to be.

[TCH-Don]

Welcome to the forum, Dan

[stevesh]

Another vote for Zencart - much better support (in their forums) than OSC.

All the open-source carts have fairly steep learning curves, but once you've figured it out, Zencart is amazingly configurable.

I use a merchant account from our regular bank (Comerica) with Verisign's Payflow Link. No problems with either. I have also heard good things about Wells Fargo.

Just my opinion, but I won't buy from Web businesses which only accept Paypal.

Steve

[snipe]

stevesh - the only problem I have been having is support for 2Checkout's new version in Zencart. A few people had said they made a patch, but I think 2CO changed some more stuff, and I can't seem to get it to work. Other than that, I like zencart quite a bit. There is definately a learning curve IF you want to customize the look and feel extensively. If you're okay with it pretty much out of the box, its much easier. And even then, the learning curve is basically largely just getting used to which files are kept in which directory.

No open source e-commerce solution that I have come across is truly plug-and-play - any of the ones that are remotely flexible are also complicated and require a little tech bit of tech skill (and often a lot of patience). I avoid OScommerce simply because the code is so freakish and (imho) kludgy. Another example of an app that started off on the right track, but tried to be everything to everyone.

[dhilke]

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll be downloading ZenCart to try it out.

My idea was to just get up-n-running with PayPal, and then "upgrade" to a WellsFargo account eventually, but I was definately making uninformed decisions...

Looks like the "Website Payment Pro" program isn't all it's cracked up to be, and the only other option sends user right to the PayPal site. Don't want that!

Thanks all,

Dan

[sastian]

on that same note, i have had a client of mine set up with zencart as well, it worked great. using payflowlink btw.

now im setting up a new cart for the same client using a more robust CMS (joomla) and Virtuemart. (which operates very much the same way zen cart did if not easier. but im having serious issues configuring this time around and im afraid that Verisign's Payflowlink may be to blame.

heres what I know.

I have configured the CMS and Cart and have set up a test product. also configured the payment system to use Payflowlink again. (that took a bit more than i thought it should )
followed directions form this link:
http://virtuemart.net/index.php?option=com...p;topic=17411.0

im getting this error after finalizing the purchase details


Fatal error: Call to undefined function: pfpro_process()

the guy on the virtumeart forum advised the following

Quote

I figured it out last night... You have to make sure that PHP is compiled with '--with-pfpro=[DIR]' and that pfpro shows in the phpinfo() list of extentsions.

are you set up to this? (im assuming so if it worked in the past on a differnt cart but im unsure)

[TCH-JimE]

Hello Sastian,

I believe thats a question for the server guys on the help desk. If you reference this thread too, they should be then able to reply to you.

JimE

[Mission]

I just have one product to sell, too. I am very new to this ecommerce thing, and will probably lean toward a PayPal connection.

I've seen the acronym "CMS" in this thread twice. What is that referring to?

[snipe]

CMS usually stands for Content Management System